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		<title>Atheism, Religion, and Teaching Methodologies VS Conclusions</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some follow up on my last clip &#8230;



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some follow up on my last clip &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Logical Fallacies, Religion, and Hypocrisy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[All bigoted beliefs by definition defy the consistency of reality, that is &#8211; logic. Thus, wherever you encounter bigotry, hypocrisy is not far.
Religion, as a subset of bigotry, is by necessity  one of the most fertile grounds for hypocrisy.
Not that I care for this person&#8217;s blog at all, and not to pick on the [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All <a href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/existence-logic-evidence-truth-knowledge-bigotry/">bigoted beliefs</a> by definition defy the consistency of reality, that is &#8211; logic. Thus, wherever you encounter bigotry, hypocrisy is not far.</p>
<p>Religion, as a subset of bigotry, is by necessity  one of the most fertile grounds for hypocrisy.</p>
<p>Not that I care for this person&#8217;s blog at all, and not to pick on the guy in particular, but this is the kind of stuff that you always need to look out for to sniff out moral corruption, hypocrisy and irrationality at its core.</p>
<p>Here the guy kindly instructs the reader on <a href="http://fwcon.wordpress.com/all-about-logical-fallacies/">All About Logical Fallacies</a>. In particular he enlightens the reader about the following:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Argumentum ad populum:</strong> This common logical fallacy relies on the fact that “everybody” believes it or accepts it as true, therefore it is true. It can also be used to replace specific authorities with a more collective “all scientists”, “all politicians”, “all reasonable people” claim.</p>
<blockquote><p>Illogical Ian: I know its true, because everyone says its true!</p>
<p>Logical Leo: I don’t think it’s true. So since everyone doesn’t say it’s true, it must not be true, then?</p>
<p>Illogical Ian: Well, most reasonable people say its true!</p>
<p>Logical Leo: It wasn’t too long ago that most reasonable people though that slavery wasn’t a terrible idea.</p>
<p>Illogical Ian: That’s a different thing man…</p>
<p>Logical Leo: And not too long ago, the vast majority of the American public supported the invasion of Iraq.</p>
<p>Illogical Ian: Hold on…</p>
<p>Logical Leo: I can give you plenty of examples where public opinion, or the opinion of a large group of any people, turned out to be wrong. In fact, I can only say with certainty that no one knows everything, or really, anything. At some point, some part of their understanding will be proven wrong. Hopefully, at that point, they will embrace the new understanding and logic. Either that, or leave themselves behind on the dustbin of history.</p></blockquote>
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<p>So far so good. The claim that something is true because many reasonable people think it is, is a rampant fallacy indeed. Thus our friend from above justly cautions:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you use any of the logical fallacies below, you are embracing deception and lies. Pay attention to this and rid yourself of all logical fallacies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Awesome! Great! Yay! Let&#8217;s see how consistently he applies his own preachings.</p>
<p>In this post he writes about <a href="http://fwcon.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/eye-witness-accounts">Eye Witness Accounts</a> from 2000+ years ago which supposedly constitute convincing evidence about the truth of claims in the Bible, all based on Lee Strobel&#8217;s &#8220;The Case For Christ&#8221;.</p>
<p>Aside from the fact that I can&#8217;t wait for this guy to act consistently and also make the same case for Zeus, Hera, and 10,000+ other gods from long gone superstitions, based on their &#8220;eye-witness accounts&#8221;, another person wrote a comment about this post:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is absolutely no substantive, rational evidence provided by Strobel to support the divinity of Christ or miracles performed. Likewise, to claim that the four gospels provide an accurate portrayal of Christ when a number of alternative gospels were suppressed by the early church is amusing at best.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; to which the author <a href=" http://fwcon.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/eye-witness-accounts/#comment-27686">replied with what he considers evidence</a>, in particular he said this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hundreds of millions of people worldwide have attempted to follow Jesus, and have received some sort of divine manifestation that his teachings are true and that he is, indeed, all that he claimed to be in the Bible. Prove that these hundreds of millions of people are lunatics, liars, or frauds.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds familiar, Illogical Ian, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure the guy is currently busy as hell, ridding himself of this logical inconsistency, just as he cautioned his readers to do.</p>
<p>Because, as we all know, it&#8217;s important to practice what you preach, right? Right?? =)</p>


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		<title>Against the Gods?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This new free book by Stefan Molyneux is probably the most rigorous, uncompromising, damning, consistent, and comprehensive case against illusion, falsehoods, and bigotry in general, and against religion and agnosticism in particular:

&#8230; well worth a thorough read or listen.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This new free book by Stefan Molyneux is probably the most rigorous, uncompromising, damning, consistent, and comprehensive case against illusion, falsehoods, and <a title="Bigotry" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/existence-logic-evidence-truth-knowledge-bigotry/" target="_blank">bigotry</a> in general, and against religion and agnosticism in particular:</p>
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<p>&#8230; well worth a thorough read or listen.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[This is his great speech at the &#8220;Protest The Pope&#8221; rally, 18th September 2010:

This is the original text, which is a bit longer:
Should Joseph Ratzinger have been welcomed with all the pomp and  ceremony due to a Head of State? No. As Geoffrey Robertson has shown in The Case of the Pope, the Holy [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is his great speech at the &#8220;Protest The Pope&#8221; rally, 18th September 2010:</p>
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<p>This is the <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/articles/521113-ratzinger-is-an-enemy-of-humanity">original text</a>, which is a bit longer:</p>
<blockquote><p>Should Joseph Ratzinger have been welcomed with all the pomp and  ceremony due to a Head of State? No. As Geoffrey Robertson has shown in <em>The Case of the Pope,</em> the Holy See&#8217;s claim to statehood is founded on a Faustian deal in  which Mussolini handed over 1.2 square miles of central Rome in exchange  for Church support of his fascist regime. Our government chose the  occasion of the pope’s visit to announce their intention to “do God”. As  a friend has remarked to me, presumably we should expect the imminent  hand-over of Hyde Park to the Vatican, to clinch the deal?</p>
<p>Should Ratzinger, then, be welcomed as the head of a church? By all  means, if individual Catholics wish to overlook his many transgressions  and lay out the red carpet for his designer red shoes, let them do so.  But don&#8217;t ask the rest of us to pay. Don&#8217;t ask the British taxpayer to  subsidize the propaganda mission of an institution whose wealth is  measured in the tens of billions: wealth for which the phrase  &#8216;ill-gotten&#8217; might have been specifically coined. And spare us the  nauseating spectacle of the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and assorted  Lord Lieutenants and other dignitaries cringing and fawning  sycophantically all over him as though he were somebody we should  respect.</p>
<p>Benedict’s predecessor, John Paul II, was respected by some as a saintly man. But <em>nobody</em> could call Benedict XVI saintly and keep a straight face. Whatever this  leering old fixer may be, he is not saintly. Is he intellectual?  Scholarly? That is often claimed, although it is far from clear what  there is in theology to be scholarly <em>about</em>. Surely nothing to respect.</p>
<p>The unfortunate little fact that Joseph Ratzinger joined the Hitler  Youth has been the subject of a widely observed moratorium.  I’ve  respected it myself, hitherto. But after the Pope’s outrageous speech in  Edinburgh, blaming atheism for Hitler, one can’t help feeling that the  gloves are off. Did you hear what he said?</p>
<p>Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and  her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God  from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews   . . . As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism  of the twentieth century . . .</p>
<p>You have to wonder about the PR skills of the advisors who let that  paragraph through. Oh but of course, I was forgetting, his senior  advisor is that Cardinal who takes one look at the immigration officials  at Heathrow and concludes that he must have landed in the Third World.  The poor man was no doubt prescribed a bushel of Hail Marys, on top of  his swift attack of diplomatic gout – and one can’t help wondering  whether the afflicted foot was the one he puts in his mouth.</p>
<p>At first I was annoyed by the Pope’s disgraceful attack on atheists  and secularists, but then I saw it as reassuring. It suggests that we  have rattled them so much that they have to resort to insulting us, in a  desperate attempt to divert attention from the child rape scandal.</p>
<p>It probably is too harsh to expect the 15-year-old Ratzinger to have  seen through the Nazis. As a devout Catholic, he would have had dinned  into him, along with the Catechism, the obnoxious idea that all Jews are  to be held responsible for killing Jesus – the ‘Christ-killer’ libel –  not repudiated until the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965). The German  Roman Catholic psyche of the time was still shot through with the  anti-Semitism of centuries.</p>
<p>Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic. Or at least he was as much a Roman  Catholic as the 5 million so-called Roman Catholics in this country  today. For Hitler never renounced his baptismal Catholicism, which was  doubtless the criterion for counting the 5 million alleged British  Catholics today. You cannot have it both ways. Either you have 5 million  British Catholics, in which case you have to have Hitler too. Or Hitler  was not a Catholic, in which case you have to give us an honest figure  for the number of genuine Catholics in Britain today – the number who  really believe Jesus turns himself into a wafer, as the former Professor  Ratzinger presumably does.</p>
<p>In any case, Hitler certainly was <em>not</em> an atheist. In 1933 he  claimed to have “stamped atheism out”, having banned most of Germany’s  atheist organizations, including the German Freethinkers League whose  building was then turned into an information bureau for church affairs.</p>
<p>At very least, Hitler believed in a personified ‘Providence’,  presumably akin to the Divine Providence invoked by the Cardinal  Archbishop of Munich in 1939, when Hitler escaped assassination and the  Cardinal ordered a special <em>Te Deum</em> in Munich Cathedral,</p>
<p>To thank Divine Providence in the name of the Archdiocese for the Führer’s fortunate escape.</p>
<p>We may never know whether Hitler identified his ‘Providence’ with the  Cardinal’s God. But he certainly knew his overwhelmingly Christian  constituency, the millions of good Christian Germans with <em>Gott mit uns</em> on their belt buckles, who actually did his dirty work for him.  He  knew his support base. Hitler most certainly did “do God”. Here’s part  of a speech he made in Munich, the heart of Catholic Bavaria, in 1922: -</p>
<p>My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and  Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness,  surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were  and summoned men to fight against them and who – God&#8217;s truth! – was  greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a  Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the  Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of  the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight  against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest  emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it  was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.</p>
<p>That is just one of numerous <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/articles/519932-list-of-hitler-quotes-%E2%80%94-in-honor-of-the-papal-visit-to-the-uk">speeches, and passages in <em>Mein Kampf</em></a>,  where Hitler invoked his Christianity. No wonder he received such warm  support from within the Catholic hierarchy of Germany. And Benedict’s  predecessor, Pius XII, is not guiltless, as the Catholic writer John  Cornwell devastatingly showed, in his book <em>Hitler’s Pope</em>.</p>
<p>It would be unkind to prolong this point, but Ratzinger’s speech in  Edinburgh on Thursday was so disgraceful, so hypocritical, so redolent  of the sound of stones hurled from within a glass house, I felt that I  had to reply.</p>
<p>Even if Hitler had been an atheist – as Stalin more surely was – how <em>dare</em> Ratzinger suggest that atheism has any connection whatsoever with their  horrific deeds? Any more than Hitler and Stalin’s non-belief in  leprechauns or unicorns. Any more than their sporting of a moustache –  along with Franco and Saddam Hussein. There is no logical pathway from  atheism to wickedness. Unless, that is, you are steeped in the vile  obscenity at the heart of Catholic theology. I refer (and I am indebted  to Paula Kirby for the point) to the doctrine of Original Sin. These  people believe – and they teach this to tiny children, at the same time  as they teach them the terrifying falsehood of hell – that every baby is  “born in sin”. That would be Adam’s sin, by the way: Adam who, as they  themselves now admit, never existed. Original sin means that, from the  moment we are born, we are wicked, corrupt, damned. Unless we believe in  their God.  Or unless we fall for the carrot of heaven and the stick of  hell. That, ladies and gentleman, is the disgusting theory that leads  them to presume that it was godlessness that made Hitler and Stalin the  monsters that they were. We are all monsters unless redeemed by Jesus.  What a vile, depraved, inhuman theory to base your life on.</p>
<p>Joseph Ratzinger is an enemy of humanity.</p>
<p>He is an enemy of children, whose bodies he has allowed to be raped  and whose minds he has encouraged to be infected with guilt. It is  embarrassingly clear that the church is less concerned with saving child  bodies from rapists than with saving priestly souls from hell: and most  concerned with saving the long-term reputation of the church itself.</p>
<p>He is an enemy of gay people, bestowing on them the sort of bigotry that his church used to reserve for Jews.</p>
<p>He is an enemy of women – barring them from the priesthood as though a  penis were an essential tool for pastoral duties. What other employer  is allowed to discriminate on grounds of sex, when filling a job that  manifestly doesn’t require physical strength or some other quality that  only males might be thought to have?</p>
<p>He is an enemy of truth, promoting barefaced lies about condoms not protecting against AIDS, especially in Africa.</p>
<p>He is an enemy of the poorest people on the planet, condemning them  to inflated families that they cannot feed, and so keeping them in the  bondage of perpetual poverty. A poverty that sits ill with the obscene  riches of the Vatican.</p>
<p>He is an enemy of science, obstructing vital stem-cell research, on grounds not of morality but of pre-scientific superstition.</p>
<p>Less seriously from my point of view, Ratzinger is even an enemy of  the Queen’s own church, arrogantly endorsing a predecessor&#8217;s dissing of  Anglican Orders as “absolutely null and utterly void”, while shamelessly  trying to poach Anglican vicars to shore up his own pitifully declining  priesthood.</p>
<p>Finally, perhaps of most personal concern to me, he is an enemy of  education. Quite apart from the lifelong psychological damage caused by  the guilt and fear that have made catholic education infamous throughout  the world, he and his church foster the educationally pernicious  doctrine that evidence is a less reliable basis for belief than faith,  tradition, revelation and authority – <em>his</em> authority.</p></blockquote>
<p>These were <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11332515">the Pope&#8217;s hideous remarks he is responding to</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Even in our own lifetimes we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were thought unfit to live.</p>
<p>&#8220;As we reflect on the sobering lessons of atheist extremism of the 20th century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus a reductive vision of a person and his destiny.&#8221;</p></blockquote>


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		<title>States and Religions &#8211; Scar Tissues From Our Childhood</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[People&#8217;s perception of government and religion is quite an interesting phenomenon.
Not so much with the younger generation (and by young I mean the young at heart, meaning those who are curious, open-minded, self-searching, truth-seeking, and still capable of rational thinking), but definitely with those whose minds have stopped accepting new or alien ideas and whose [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People&#8217;s perception of <a title="Government" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/praxeology/economics/economics-of-compulsory-action/government/" target="_blank">government</a> and religion is quite an interesting phenomenon.</p>
<p>Not so much with the younger generation (and by young I mean the young at heart, meaning those who are curious, open-minded, self-searching, truth-seeking, and still capable of rational thinking), but definitely with those whose minds have stopped accepting new or alien ideas and whose only aim it is to jam every <a title="Concepts" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/reality-concepts-the-state-and-god/" target="_blank">concept</a> and observation into their immutable and eternal mental box.</p>
<p>The scar tissue of an abusive childhood remains so long as one does not confront it openly and honestly. All of us have been subject to moral corruption at one point or another in our childhood. Bullying parents, teachers, and priests are those who lay the groundwork and fertilize the soil for obedient and irrational adults in the future.</p>
<p>To most of us, the fact that those who preached to us when we were young were morally corrupt individuals of the first order, is probably one of the scariest and most challenging things to admit. The more emotionally offended and upset one gets when confronted with such ideas, the more likely it is that he is suffering from this scar tissue. But from this unfortunately follows that those who have been <em>most brutally</em> corrupted, are actually <em>least likely</em> to confront their past!</p>
<p>This is why, when people exalt <a title="Concepts - State and God" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/reality-concepts-the-state-and-god/" target="_blank">the imaginary concepts of the state and of God</a>, all they really seek is justification for the irrationality and mental or even physical abuses experienced in their childhoods.</p>
<p>For if the state&#8217;s brutal depredations of mass murder and mass-theft are justified, then surely the moments when your mommy snapped and hit her completely powerless little one, or when daddy took your favorite toys away from you, were all comparatively minor and necessary means to getting you back in line &#8230; right?</p>
<p>If the faith in an all-knowing yet all-powerful, non-material yet conscious, living yet never born or ceasing, murderous yet virtuous, and thus completely contradictory and unproven entity is rational, moral and beyond questioning, then surely the moments when your parents told you to &#8220;Shut up!&#8221;, &#8220;You do what I say, not what you think is right!&#8221;, &#8220;Don&#8217;t ask!&#8221;, &#8220;Don&#8217;t think!&#8221;, and the like, were just consistent applications of the superiority of faith over logic and empirical evidence &#8230; right?</p>
<p>There is no better way to break the development of a curious and reasoning spirit!</p>
<p>Thus, when you outline to such scarred people the rather simple truths as to what it is that people who call themselves &#8220;The State&#8221; actually do day in day out, that they obtain their resources from people by shooting them if they resist the collection thereof, you will <strong>always</strong> confront immediate denial and aggressive rejection and complete ridicule of the idea. This is as sure as night follows day.</p>
<p>When you press people who suffer from religiousness on very simple logical and empirical inconsistencies and shortcomings about their belief in God and other superstitions, you can expect very similar reactions.</p>
<p><em>(To be sure: <strong>I am not saying this to offend people.</strong> Quite the opposite! I fully appreciate and understand that it is asking a lot of somebody to give up concepts that have served as the foundation of one&#8217;s entire world view. In fact, I am not sure there is a harder thing one could ask of somebody!!)</em></p>
<p>But it is impossible to evade simple truths. People will bombard you with everything conceivable to try and bend reality and justify the unjustifiable, reason through the unreasonable. They will come up with ten different tangents, all with the objective to get off the topic at hand as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>Why is that? Because they are in their subconscious not talking about &#8220;The State&#8221;, or &#8220;God&#8221;. They are talking about their childhood, their family and other authority figures who have molded and whipped their minds into obedience and conformity.</p>
<p>To them, it is not about discovering the truth. Their entire quest for supposed understanding, philosophical thoughts, and political positions is centered around the justification of the injustice and the reasoning for the un-reason that they suffered in their upbringing and their education.</p>
<p>Keep this in mind when talking to the majority of people around you. They will rarely ever be open to dealing with serious questions in a logical and consistent manner until they have dealt with and found closure about the injustice and irrationality that has dominated their own upbringing.</p>


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I can agree to all the things listed in there. Present me one of the proofs asked for in Part 1 and you can sign me up for the whole God thingy immediately.
And I concur with part 2: Spare me any stories of how you used to be an atheist and converted to religion and [...]


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<p>I can agree to all the things listed in there. Present me one of the proofs asked for in Part 1 and you can sign me up for the whole God thingy immediately.</p>
<p>And I concur with part 2: Spare me any stories of how you used to be an atheist and converted to religion and how it has helped you in times of emotional trouble. Don&#8217;t make a fool of yourself by telling me that you yourself talked to God, Jesus, an angel or what have you. Believe me, this will NOT convert me, quite the contrary!</p>
<p>The crucial point is that of the &#8216;null hypothesis&#8217;. Every scientific theory has a null hypothesis, meaning a scenario under which the proposed theory could be proven wrong.</p>
<p>If rocks were to fall up, all things being equal, then Newton and Einstein would need to get back to the drawing board. If a ship were to fall down the disk of the earth, then surely Galilei must have gotten something wrong, etc &#8230;</p>
<p>This is kind of important. Everybody who wants to propose a bullet proof and sound theory has to offer a null hypothesis under which it may be proven false. This is because true theories don&#8217;t need to shy away from the most rigorous scientific scrutiny.</p>
<p>But even IF they were proven wrong, nobody&#8217;s worldview in the scientific community would shatter and render his life meaningless. Quite the contrary. Science welcomes challenge and progress. Religion doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So whenever you talk to a religious person, before discussing anything else, simply ask them the following question: What proof would convince you that your theory is wrong, meaning that God and miracles don&#8217;t exist?</p>
<p>This is not a whole lot to ask for. It is they who are so certain that the theoretical entity that they can&#8217;t point at truly exists, it is they who believe in the validity of a book written 1700 ago about events that supposedly occurred 300 (!!) years prior to that, without access to any of the means of media and communication available today, it is they who suggest that this theoretical entity and this book should be used as the ultimate source of wisdom and morality, arguably the most important thing in life.</p>
<p>Those are some pretty extraordinary and amazing claims to make. They are amazing in particular because they are being advanced without the slightest proof whatsoever. The clip above asks for some proofs that should be rather easy to deliver if the theory was indeed true.</p>
<p>Thus it is only fair to give religious people that same opportunity, assuming they want to be taken seriously: Tell us what more proof you need in order to be convinced that there is no God ?</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[I thought I&#8217;d just put out there some of the stuff that those who believe that the Bible is God&#8217;s word would necessarily have to endorse, comments are, as always appreciated:
 A Blasphemer Stoned
 10 Now the son of an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father went out among the Israelites, and a fight broke [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I&#8217;d just put out there some of the stuff that those who believe that the Bible is God&#8217;s word would necessarily have to endorse, comments are, as always appreciated:</p>
<blockquote><p> A Blasphemer Stoned<br />
 10 Now the son of an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father went out among the Israelites, and a fight broke out in the camp between him and an Israelite. 11 The son of the Israelite woman blasphemed the Name with a curse; so they brought him to Moses. (His mother&#8217;s name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri the Danite.) 12 They put him in custody until the will of the LORD should be made clear to them.</p>
<p> 13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 &#8220;Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: &#8216;If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.
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<p>Wow &#8230; God, that being supposedly perfect in wisdom and power, surely is a neurotic, insecure, and violent sociopath &#8230; at least if we give credence to this verse from that book called Bible.</p>
<p>Quite interesting how people can choose that same being as the ULTIMATE arbiter of righteousness and morality. I&#8217;m quite curious how this makes any sense.</p>
<p>I may remind anyone reading this: From a Christian&#8217;s point of view Jesus is God. So Jesus is that God that proclaimed that those who say things about him that aren&#8217;t very nice shall be STONED TO DEATH.</p>
<p>But, as always, I may be missing something here. So, all you devout Jesus freaks out there, fire away, tell me, what am I missing?</p>
<p>But, please, do stick to the verse I cited above, don&#8217;t try and deviate from it.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Reality vs Concepts
Objects are tangible things in within the universe, for example a rock, a tree, a chair, or a human being. We humans can observe the attributes of such a thing and place it in a group with other similar items.
For example, there are different types of rocks, big ones, small ones, granite, marble, [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Reality vs Concepts</strong></p>
<p>Objects are tangible things in within the universe, for example a rock, a tree, a chair, or a human being. We humans can observe the attributes of such a thing and place it in a group with other similar items.</p>
<p>For example, there are different types of rocks, big ones, small ones, granite, marble, or limestone. But they all share the characteristics of being more or less solid pieces of accumulated, rather inorganic mass, they all behave in similar ways when touched or thrown, none of them possess the ability to act, etc &#8230;</p>
<p>Thus we group all those things into the concept of &#8220;rocks&#8221;. But the concept is a mere imaginative category of thinking. Grouping things into concepts helps us establish rules and expectations as to how certain things will react when their present state of nature is changed. For example, we deem it proper to use a hammer to work on rocks in mine shafts. We would certainly not evaluate the same action performed on a human in the same way.</p>
<p>But a concept does not exist in the universe, except for in the form of neurological reflexes in our brains, which to date we are still unable to fully capture and understand. A concept only emerges once we can actually observe objects that we can group into it. Thus empirical observation of objects always precedes and trumps over the concept itself. The concept is only a helpful construct if the objects that we conceptually assign to it by and large possess the attributes established as part of the concept.</p>
<p>For example, if we see something that looks like a rock at first, but then it starts moving around and turns out to be an organism, we would never maintain that it be a rock, but rather determine that it belongs to a different concept, say, that of seashells.</p>
<p>But it is completely counterproductive for us humans to establish a concept and group into it objects that don&#8217;t at all possess the attributes established in the concept. Just as it is completely useless, even harmful, for us to establish concepts that can&#8217;t be assigned any empirically observable objects whatsoever.</p>
<p>When I say there are solid objects on planet earth that vaporize once a human looks at them, I am proposing a concept, say &#8220;That Which Vaporizes Upon Sight&#8221;. But it is a completely useless concept as long as I don&#8217;t find observable objects that fulfill this criterion.</p>
<p>Whenever I claim that there is something that exists, but can&#8217;t point to any (at least yet) observable objects or instances, then I am proposing a mere concept. But it is an empty, meaningless concept. To give any meaning to it I need to go about and find empirical and observable objects that possess the attributes I ascribe to that concept. For as long as I don&#8217;t, the concept I am proposing is empty, meaningless, unproven, and thus simply false.</p>
<p>It is in the nature of such a fuzzy, meaningless concept, that man can ascribe to it any attribute he wants. For since there is no empirical and reasonable proof for any instances of this concept, there also isn&#8217;t any proof that the attributes assigned are false ones. Once can always claim that once the object is discovered it will possess all those attributes. To be sure, it is completely irrelevant whether or not the attributes are false, because, as long as it is unproven, the entire concept is already false to begin with.</p>
<p>When I establish such a fuzzy concept, yet manage to convince people that in order to be &#8220;good&#8221; they need to believe that this concept exists, need to worship it, bow down to it, and follow its decrees, I have free reign to make them do whatever I want. Why? Because as I outlined above I can assign whatever attributes I want to it.</p>
<p><strong>The Concept &#8220;State&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>As explained, some concepts are either falsely described or are assigned the wrong objects. Such is the case with the belief in the <a title="Government" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/praxeology/economics/economics-of-compulsory-action/government/" target="_blank">state</a>. The state, in most people&#8217;s minds, is a false concept. It possesses all the good and virtuous attributes we can think of. It regulates, curbs our greed, re-distributes unjustly earned incomes, represents the &#8220;common good&#8221;, prevents pollution, maintains the peace, and protects us from harm. How could anyone object to such a glorious concept? The problem is that actually there is no such thing as that state. You can&#8217;t go up to the &#8220;state&#8221; and shake its hands. You can&#8217;t have a conversation with it. You can&#8217;t take a picture of it, touch it, etc.</p>
<p>What <em>does</em> exist in society as observable objects are people. And some of those people possess guns, bats, tanks, grenades, prisons, etc. They tell us to give them our guns and <a title="Money" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/praxeology/economics/economics-of-voluntary-action/goods/media-of-exchange-money/" target="_blank">money</a> because they will do good things for us. Surely we would be willing to <a title="Voluntary Economics" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/praxeology/economics/economics-of-voluntary-action/" target="_blank">voluntarily</a> hand over our money if this was true. But unfortunately there is no such choice.  For if we don&#8217;t pay them our <a title="Taxation" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/praxeology/economics/economics-of-compulsory-action/government/taxation/" target="_blank">tribute</a> on a regular basis they will throw us in prison or shoot us in case we raise a gun to <a title="Defense" href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/praxeology/economics/economics-of-compulsory-action/violence/defense/" target="_blank">defend</a> our property.</p>
<p>This is what people do under the sublime cover of the &#8220;state&#8221;, plain and simple. (To anyone who disagrees: feel free to refute this statement.) We call those people &#8220;the state&#8221;. But what they actually do has nothing to do with the concept &#8220;state&#8221; that most people have been raised to hold in their minds. This is of course not a surprise. For those same people who threaten us at gunpoint to hand over our property, also happen to run the public school system and determine its curriculum, subsidize higher education facilities, and grant or revoke concessions to utilize the airwaves for radio and TV stations, in other words fully or partially control all the means of communicating ideas about the concept &#8220;state&#8221; to the majority of those who carry the concept, the people.</p>
<p>The implications are predictable: If the concept of state embodies all that is good and just, then naturally, every action taken by those who are considered to belong to the state are considered good, heroic, and justified, no matter how cruel, base, or immoral they may be. One person taking money from another by use or threat of violence is theft, but when the minions of the state do it it is just taxation. A man who takes money to invade other people&#8217;s homes and shoot at them because someone told him to is a heartless hitman. But put a helmet and a green costume with a state coat of arms on him and he is a heroic solider.</p>
<p>All proper perception of reality is lost when concepts overshadow it. Any excuse will do. &#8220;The people who are the state are stealing and murdering? Well, we voted for them so it is just by majority rule.&#8221; This again is a concept that immediately breaks down when examined from a realistic view point. For how does an unjust act become justified just because more people have agreed to it than objected? If I am not justified to kill my neighbor and take his property, then does it become just when all other people in my building agree that I may do it? I hope not. Does it become just when the entire world agrees? Of course not, quite the opposite, it turns into mass tyranny.</p>
<p>Then there are those who say that we humans are just too selfish, greedy, stupid, immoral, sinful, dangerous, base, and filthy to be left without oversight from the state. This argument is self-refuting. For who is it that sits in the state apparatus? Are they super-humans? Would anyone dare to argue that out of all people <em>politicians</em> are mankind&#8217;s shining beacon, society&#8217;s prime example of perfectly altruistic, humble, intelligent, moral, virtuous, and trustworthy human beings?</p>
<p>Most people who are for the first time in their lives confronted with these ideas will try to do one simple thing: bend reality. They will come up with excuses such as the one above or things like &#8220;taxation is <em>really</em> voluntary because we chose to live here&#8221;, &#8220;we have entered into a <em>social contract</em> with the state&#8221;, &#8220;but someone <em>has</em> to do it&#8221;, &#8220;<em>public goods</em> can only be provided by the state&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>This is of course understandable. Again, if one has been raised for his entire life with the idea that the state represents the common good, it is hard to accept the exact opposite, no matter what meets the eye when peeking through the foggy concept. It is important to realize that one can always concoct an excuse for any act one performs, no matter how immoral it is. <em>Any excuse will do.</em> Most people will thus choose to shrug at the facts above and find excuses, they will try to bend and mold reality in order for it to fit into their form of the concept &#8220;state&#8221; as they know it and as they want it to be.</p>
<p>It is not my objective to convert those people right here and now. To believe I could do that would be completely foolish. All I intend to do is give them an opportunity to question established concepts, use their own best judgment, and to lift the veil for at least a few seconds. Who knows, <em>maybe I am wrong</em>? In that case I would be truly delighted if someone can point out what I missed and help me improve my theories and ideas. However, what I do have little patience with are arguments that have been long refuted and that introduce nothing new at all into the debate.</p>
<p><strong>The Concept &#8220;God&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>As explained, some concepts don&#8217;t find any instances in reality whatsoever. Such is the case with the concept God, &#8220;the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshiped as creator and ruler of the universe&#8221;.</p>
<p>The well known contradiction of this concept is of course this: If a being is perfect in wisdom this implies that this being knows all its future actions beforehand. But if it is perfect in power then it should be able to alter the course of action it will take in the future at any point in time. But then it can&#8217;t be perfect in wisdom.</p>
<p>But it doesn&#8217;t just end there! God cannot be detected materially, yet possesses consciousness (which is by definition an effect of material brain matter), and exists (while the definition of existence is the consisting of one or more particles). God is alive, yet has never been born and will never die (while the definition of being alive live involves birth at least), etc.</p>
<p>Thus the commonly understood concept of God faces a whole array of insurmountable <a href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/existence-logic-evidence-truth-knowledge-bigotry/">logical</a> contradictions.</p>
<p>Furthermore, there are no observable objects that can be placed in that category whatsoever. There is no evidence that would prove that this (contradictory to begin with) concept is a derivative of observable matter in reality.</p>
<p>Thus, whenever humans talk of God they are not talking about any specific thing, they are referring to an empty, unproven, logically inconsistent and contradictory concept.</p>
<p>One can arguably say that the proposition of the existence of God is the most unfounded, contradictory, illogical, and <a href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/existence-logic-evidence-truth-knowledge-bigotry/">bigoted</a> proposition ever advanced and defended in the history of mankind.</p>
<p>Thus, agnostics who take the high road and say &#8220;What&#8217;s so difficult about saying <em>I don&#8217;t know</em>?&#8221;, need to be aware that in that in uttering such a statement they are rendering the word <em>knowledge</em> completely and utterly meaningless. If you can&#8217;t even say you don&#8217;t know whether the most ridiculous, contradictory, and unproven proposition is false, then what in the world <em>can you actually know</em>?</p>
<p>There are certainly differences in degree in the empirical proof of concepts. The galaxy, distant stars, planets, black holes for example are rather remote objects which we humans believe to observe via helpful devices. But they remain distant and unclear. We believe to know what the attributes of a black hole are, and we base those ideas on strenuous research and we try to obtain as much information as humanly possible, yet remain open to differing theories.</p>
<p>But it is quite striking to see that many people are <em>so sure</em> that a &#8220;God&#8221; exists that they will make their religion the moral compass of their lives, while not even <em>that low</em> a level of evidence exists to support their beliefs.</p>
<p>Some will say that God is outside the universe and thus not open to such base human inquiry. But by saying that something is outside the universe, one may as well say that it doesn&#8217;t exist. It is impossible for someone to say that a thing is outside of the universe, yet it exists. Anything that is outside the universe is by definition and for all practical purposes <em>non-existent</em>.</p>
<p>The point is that those who ask people to worship God, claim that God does interfere inside the universe. But by making that claim they do concede that their claim is that God does exist, at least partially, inside the universe which then again most certainly opens the concept up to human inquiry.</p>
<p>The Bible, just as one example, is full of stories where God talks to humans and asks them to do things. If that was the case, then surely there should be at least the slightest empirical evidence, before one unconditionally submits oneself to such a being as God.</p>
<p><strong>Seeing Through Concepts</strong></p>
<p>This is not an assault on concepts per-se, it is a reminder that not all concepts are valid by the virtue of their mere existence and acceptance in the minds of most people. An object is an object, and a concept is a concept. A concept helps explain the attributes of different objects, but it can never become an object in and of itself.</p>
<p>In order to understand one&#8217;s surroundings, explain phenomena, make proper decisions in life one needs to understand what is behind the concepts that most people commonly accept in society. So long as false or empty concepts remain in one&#8217;s mind as such, it will always be difficult to make sense of complex historical and present phenomena.</p>
<p>It is, for example, impossible to truly come up with <a href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/ethics-human-nature-and-government-a-manifesto-for-liberty/">an ethical framework that tells us what is good and what is bad in human society</a> without applying observable facts about human beings in the process of arriving at such a framework.</p>
<p>Use your own nature given capabilities of human reason, question existing concepts, make sure they match up with reality, and you will know what is good for yourself and your fellow humans.</p>
<p>Try to look for concepts that have seemingly morphed into actual objects in people&#8217;s minds, and you will quickly discover the roots of all evil in society.</p>


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		<title>Atheism &#8211; The Source of the Most Immoral Evils in History</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a recent gallup poll:
This Christmas season, 78% of Americans identify with some form of Christian religion, a proportion that has been declining in recent decades. The major reason for this decline has been an increase in the percentage of Americans claiming no religious identity, now at 13% of all adults.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/124793/This-Christmas-78-Americans-Identify-Christian.aspx" target="_blank">recent gallup poll</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>This Christmas season, 78% of Americans identify with some form of Christian religion, a proportion that has been declining in recent decades. The major reason for this decline has been an increase in the percentage of Americans claiming no religious identity, now at 13% of all adults.</p>
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<p>&#8230; I might be naive of course. Just because more Americans abdicate from fairy tales of talking snakes, virgin births, or a Jewish zombie sent to earth by his father who was really himself, doesn&#8217;t mean they are not choosing some other blind ideologies, such as socialism, belief in <a title="Government" href="/praxeology/economics-of-compulsory-action/government" target="_blank">government</a>, etc.</p>
<p>In the long run, reason will prevail. But the long run is, by definition, long &#8230;</p>


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