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		<title>China Housing Bust &#8211; Prices in Ordos Fall by 62.5 Percent</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nima</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From China Financial Daily:
Living in the edge of the Ordos storm , Ordos was beset with a different version of real estate lending Wenzhou panic . For example, local ” Jinxin Han Lin Yuan ” project , its second-hand house prices are around 10,000 yuan, while the market price now only is 3750 yuan.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.chinafinancialdaily.com/financial/news/2011/11/24/15115/erdos-ghost-town-property-market-crash-ten-thousand-yuan-housing-price-drop-by-70.html">China Financial Daily</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Living in the edge of the Ordos storm , Ordos was beset with a different version of real estate lending Wenzhou panic . For example, local ” Jinxin Han Lin Yuan ” project , its second-hand house prices are around 10,000 yuan, while the market price now only is 3750 yuan.</p></blockquote>


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		<title>China&#8217;s Bubble Produces Empty (!!!) City</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nima</dc:creator>
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&#8230; it is hard to find a better example of how government spending produces rampant malinvestment. Note that spending on such useless projects is not the only source of &#8220;GDP growth&#8221; by Chinese measures: Even funds that are only earmarked, not yet spent, are included.
What drives all this madness? It&#8217;s simple:
China’s banks extended more loans [...]


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<p>&#8230; it is hard to find a better example of how government spending produces rampant malinvestment. Note that spending on such useless projects is not the only source of &#8220;GDP growth&#8221; by Chinese measures: Even funds that are only earmarked, not yet spent, are included.</p>
<p>What drives all this madness? <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&#038;sid=a4HXwmpVL__s">It&#8217;s simple</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>China’s banks extended more loans in November than economists forecast.</p>
<p>New local-currency loans totaled 294.8 billion yuan ($43.2 billion), compared with 253 billion yuan in October, according to data released by the People’s Bank of China on its Web site today. The median forecast of 19 economists in a Bloomberg News survey was 250 billion yuan.</p>
<p>M2, the broadest measure of money supply, rose a record 29.74 percent in November from a year earlier.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is why I believe that the wide spread notion <a href="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/free-floating-yuan-stronger-yuan/">Free Floating Yuan = Stronger Yuan</a> is a complete and utter fallacy.</p>
<p>China&#8217;s growth is a mirage, its bubble a monstrous one, its impending crash completely inevitable.</p>


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		<title>Rally in Chinese Stocks &#8211; Time to Kiss it Goodbye and Cash Out</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nima</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chinese stock market has staged a remarkable 100% rally from October 2008 through the end of July 2009. August 09, however, hasn&#8217;t been good for Chinese stocks. Since August 4th, Chinese stocks have now fallen by more than 20%.
The Shanghai Composite Index:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese stock market has staged a remarkable 100% rally from October 2008 through the end of July 2009. August 09, however, hasn&#8217;t been good for Chinese stocks. Since August 4th, Chinese stocks have now fallen by more than 20%.</p>
<p>The Shanghai Composite Index:<br />
<a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/chinese-stocks.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2900" title="chinese-stocks" src="http://www.economicsjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/chinese-stocks.png" alt="chinese-stocks" width="680" /></a><br />
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<p>EWI writes <a href="http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2009/08/31/China-s-Stocks-Crash-Is-The-United-States-Next.aspx">China&#8217;s Stocks Crash: Is The United States Next?</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><span>In the past three weeks alone, China&#8217;s formerly sizzling stock market has gone from bull market leader to bear market letdown. On August 30, the Shanghai Composite Index plummeted 6.7%, its largest one-day drop of 2009 so far. And, of the 89 global markets tracked by Bloomberg, the Shanghai index came in last place.</span></p>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span>As for what caused the freefall, mainstream experts point their collective finger at one main factor: Growing fears that China&#8217;s monetary officials will turn off their easy-money spigot. Here, this August 31 <em>BusinessWeek </em>stands in: </span></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in 8pt 0.5in;"><em><span>&#8220;Investors began selling on concerns that banks will cut back on lavish lending that had helped push shares up by more than 80% since that start of the year.&#8221; </span></em></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span>Here&#8217;s the thing: the drunken lending habits of China&#8217;s banks have been on the global Concern-O-Meter for quite some time now. And last I checked, its needle reading jumped from &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry be happy&#8221; &#8212; to &#8212; &#8220;Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid&#8221; many months ago. To wit: </span></div>
<ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc">
<li style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span><strong>May 2009: </strong>China&#8217;s deputy central bank governor seriously questions the &#8220;sustainability of the rapid growth in credit and its possible adverse impact,&#8221; and a <em>Wall Street Journal </em>piece warns that China&#8217;s stimulus spree is &#8220;pillaging bank balance sheets&#8221; as the quantity of loans vastly outweighs their quality. </span></li>
<li style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span><strong>June 2009:</strong> <em>&#8220;China&#8217;s Banks Are Warned About Loans&#8221; </em>(WSJ). China Bank Regulatory Commission issues an internal directive to commercial banks to &#8220;tighten supervision of loans&#8221; and ensure those loans serve the needs of the &#8220;real economy&#8221; and not &#8220;financial speculation.&#8221; </span></li>
<li style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span><strong>July 2009:</strong><em>&#8220;China Aims To Rein In Lending.&#8221; </em>(Associated Press) China&#8217;s two largest lenders reveal they will &#8220;sharply slow credit growth.&#8221; </span></li>
</ul>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span>Yet during that time, the mounting anti-lending rhetoric failed to take the wind out of the Shanghai Composite Index&#8217;s sails. Prices rallied without resistance to new yearly highs until early August. </span></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span>So if the &#8220;fundamental&#8221; shoe doesn&#8217;t fit, what&#8217;s the real story here? Well, I&#8217;ll make it really simple: the Shanghai Composite Index has plunged more than 20% from its 2009 high on August 4. And, in the days leading up to the market&#8217;s reversal, China landed on the radar of several of EWI&#8217;s subscription-based publications. For our analysts, the time had come to stage a full frontal attack and warn of a major turn in China&#8217;s fortunes. </span></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span>Here, the following catalogue of previous publications fills in the blanks: </span></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span><strong>August 2009 </strong><em><strong>Elliott Wave Financial Forecast</strong> </em>observes the unsustainable nature of China&#8217;s latest stock market rise and writes: &#8220;China&#8217;s debt bubble will succumb.&#8221; </span></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;">
<p><span><strong>August 14 <em>Asian Short Term Update: </em></strong><em>&#8220;All eyes continue to be on China as we ascertain whther or not an intermediate-term-top is in place.</em>&#8220;</span></p>
<p><span><strong>August 14 </strong><em><strong>Short Term Update:</strong> </em>Presented the following close-up of China&#8217;s main stock market and wrote: <em>&#8220;A break of the trendline will be the next important tip&#8221; </em>that a larger decline is underway. </span></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><strong><span><img src="http://www.elliottwave.com/images/futuresfocus/20090831-nico.gif" alt="" /></span></strong></div>
<div style="margin: 8pt 0in;"><span><strong>August 14 </strong><em><strong>European Short Term Update:</strong> &#8220;Though not under our normal purview for ESTU, China has been the central source of liquidity&#8230;China&#8217;s sharp decline may be a case of the pin meeting the balloon.&#8221; </em></span></div>
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<p>And how about the fundamentals of the oh so vibrant, dynamic, unbreakable, sound, and decoupling economy? <a href="http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/09/how-will-china-handle-yuan.html">Some facts Mish posted today about China&#8217;s unsustainable stimulus and property bubble</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-weight: bold;">A 4-Minute Tour of the China Property Bubble </span></p>
<p>What is China doing with all that printing?  Please take a <a href="http://prudentinvestor.blogspot.com/2009/08/4-minute-tour-of-china-property-bubble.html" target="_blank">A 4-Minute Tour of the China Property Bubble</a> to find out.</p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">World&#8217;s Largest Shopping Mall Sits Vacant</span></p>
<p>The world&#8217;s largest shopping mall, <a href="http://video.iptv.org/video/1218530801">South China Mall</a> in Guangzhou, China, is almost entirely empty. Click on the link to see a fascinating video.</p>
<p><span style="font-style: italic;">If you thought Minnesota&#8217;s Mall of America was the world&#8217;s biggest shopping center, think again. South China Mall is a Vegas-like spectacle built in 2005 that now sits almost entirely empty. In the current economic climate, could this be a symbol of things to come?</span></p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SprLSD0dt7I/AAAAAAAAGxI/nNQu4z8JENs/s1600-h/South+China+Mall.png" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5375832616343549874" style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 221px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SprLSD0dt7I/AAAAAAAAGxI/nNQu4z8JENs/s400/South+China+Mall.png" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SprL_biqoXI/AAAAAAAAGxQ/thEyaoan30o/s1600-h/South+China+Mall2.png" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5375833395805462898" style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 191px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SprL_biqoXI/AAAAAAAAGxQ/thEyaoan30o/s400/South+China+Mall2.png" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SprMYVRc84I/AAAAAAAAGxY/kx1h0GX3A9M/s1600-h/South+China+Mall3.png" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5375833823619380098" style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 223px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SprMYVRc84I/AAAAAAAAGxY/kx1h0GX3A9M/s400/South+China+Mall3.png" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>The entire mall sits empty save 10-12 small shops.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Malinvestments and Commodity Prices</span></p>
<p>Think about all the concrete, steel, copper, and energy it took to build that mall. This is not an isolated case either as the previous 4-minute video shows.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not confuse a renewed crack-up boom in China with a sustainable recovery. And let&#8217;s not pretend much of this building is anything other than malinvestment.</p></blockquote>
<p>The truth is: There is no decoupling. The Chinese economic miracle is a mirage, a very popular one to be sure. If it is China the world is banking on to lead a recovery, then the world is royally screwed.</p>


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