The Bible Gone Wild – Kill the Blasphemers

I thought I’d just put out there some of the stuff that those who believe that the Bible is God’s word would necessarily have to endorse, comments are, as always appreciated:

A Blasphemer Stoned
10 Now the son of an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father went out among the Israelites, and a fight broke out in the camp between him and an Israelite. 11 The son of the Israelite woman blasphemed the Name with a curse; so they brought him to Moses. (His mother’s name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri the Danite.) 12 They put him in custody until the will of the LORD should be made clear to them.

13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 “Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: ‘If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.

Wow … God, that being supposedly perfect in wisdom and power, surely is a neurotic, insecure, and violent sociopath … at least if we give credence to this verse from that book called Bible.

Quite interesting how people can choose that same being as the ULTIMATE arbiter of righteousness and morality. I’m quite curious how this makes any sense.

I may remind anyone reading this: From a Christian’s point of view Jesus is God. So Jesus is that God that proclaimed that those who say things about him that aren’t very nice shall be STONED TO DEATH.

But, as always, I may be missing something here. So, all you devout Jesus freaks out there, fire away, tell me, what am I missing?

But, please, do stick to the verse I cited above, don’t try and deviate from it.

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11 thoughts on “The Bible Gone Wild – Kill the Blasphemers”

  1. The whole camp of Israel heard God’s voice pronounce His law. They covenanted to obey that law. This blasphemer could’ve left the camp any time he wanted to, but he chose to stay with Israel. When you are in a nation, you are bound by the laws of that nation. The law of that nation was God’s law, and in God’s kingdom, blasphemy isn’t allowed.

    I’m sorry you don’t feel like that kind of law is just. You are not, of course, God, and you can hardly be expected to understand even a fraction of His mind on the matter. Let me know when you try to raise a nation out of idolatry that is not only intended to bring the Savior himself into the world, but eventually to save the world from sin. Let me know when you’ve found someone who is so righteous that you can’t but help to covenant with him that his seed will never be destroyed but in fact, through his seed the entire earth would be blessed. How will you intend to keep that covenant if you allow his children, who have covenanted with you, to violate the terms of that covenant openly and flagrantly?

    And another thing. Every injustice anyone suffers in this world will eventually be made right. We know from scripture that as in Adam all suffer and die, Christ will overcome their death and pains and suffering. One day, we will all bow on bended knee before Christ and proclaim happily that He is holy and just and merciful. If anyone in this universe is allowed to kill on a whim, it is God, because he is the only creature that can restore life.

  2. “The law of that nation was God’s law, and in God’s kingdom, blasphemy isn’t allowed.”

    … and so God’s only solution is to have that fellow stoned to death. Wow, that’s surely the least imaginative thing I can think of. Especially since it’s coming from someone who is supposedly perfect in wisdom. And it’s coming from someone who pronounced “Thou shalt not kill.”

    I take it that consistency is not part of the God-style perfection. Just as perfection itself is imperfection in God’s realm, and just how a = b in his world, insanity equals sanity, and irrationality equals reason … oh boy, it’d be too funny for words if it wasn’t so sad …

  3. I’m not Christian so I won’t speak for them but metaphysically speaking, could you imagine a situation in which you committed an act which stripped you of your humanity? Meaning, you were no longer in the category of rational animal but rather purely animal? Obviously you could say that murder would be such an act, and one can make the argument that by denying the existence of objective reality (and as I have said before God is the source of objective reality), you have denied your humanity. Why does this proclamation deserve the death penalty? That is an excellent question, but the justice system in the five books of Moses is based on the concept that you can remove yourself from civilized humanity – the community of rational animals – by denying the existence of reality. To blaspheme the name of God is, in that framework, denying reality and opens the floodgates for all of the narcissistic, antisocial behavior man is capable of. You can disagree with the idea of blaspheme, but if you believe in God as the source of existence it really is probably the worst thing a human being can do. It’s right up there with murder.

  4. I’m glad your reading the bible Nima!!! Even if it is only intended to cherry pick and ridicule God and believing Christians…. God’s word will not return void… one of His promises. I hope one day the same words you read now will be food for your soul instead of ammo for your weapons.

    I see you haven’t posted a response as to where man came from and what you believe about this. After all if believing that God created the world and man is SO unreasonable, there must be a very reasonable answer as to where we came from, right? I’m curious about your thoughts on this…

  5. To comment on your article as far as why the same God that saves people takes people’s lives away also… I’d recommend you take the entire bible into consideration, and not just this passage. It’s kind of like me reading someone’s novel, reading the middle parts and the major conflicts and not bothering to read the conclusion or how the story unfolds to the end.

    But to answer you, the context of that situation is that God was leading His people out of Egypt to enter the promised land (Canaan ie Israel which God had promised to Abraham’s descendants). The people had been rebelling against God, building false idols, and not behaving in a manner that He deemed worthy to enter the Holy Land… in other words He was preparing His people for something amazing and yet their hearts were hardened. If you continue to read in Leviticus Ch 24, God shares with Moses his expectations for justice for these people:

    If a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death.

    18′(P)The one who takes the life of an animal shall make it good, life for life.

    19’If a man injures his neighbor, just as he has done, so it shall be done to him:

    20(Q)fracture for fracture, (R)eye for eye, tooth for tooth; just as he has injured a man, so it shall be inflicted on him.

    21’Thus the one who kills an animal shall make it good, but (S)the one who kills a man shall be put to death.

    22’There shall be (T)one standard for you; it shall be for the stranger as well as the native, for I am the LORD your God.'”

    These rules were intended to prepare the hearts of His people for the promised land. Does His justice always make sense to us??? Hardly!!!

    Everyone on earth has a different idea of what true justice is. What makes your idea of justice better than anyone else’s? Why not go to the Middle East and dictate to the various governments there that they are wrong for cutting off the hand of a man who stole because you consider this to be torture and cruel. Whether it is right or wrong in our minds, do you think this man or anyone else who hears of losing their hand will be so eager to go steal, knowing what they may have to suffer?

    You can ask so many questions about God’s sense of justice and never find an answer that is suitable to our own personal sense of justice.

    Why did God not allow Moses to enter the promised land (only see it from a distance before he died) after all that he went through and all the people’s crud he had to put up with during the 40 long years in the desert? All this hardship and he didn’t even get to enjoy the fruits of his hard labor and loyalty to God for so many years? Man, that’s hard to swallow isn’t it?

    Why do innocent people, even children die and a hardened criminal live?

    There are hundred’s of thousands of questions that can be thrown out there to question God’s sense of justice vs. our own.

    If you were to run a company, would you establish rules for your employees? Something as basic as they need to be to work on time, be respectful to coworkers to maintain a healthy work environment, etc.? What good would these rules be unless there was a penalty for not following them… like the possibility of losing your job?

    If one of your employees rebelled and says: “who are you to make me come in to work on time and follow these rules” how would you respond? Shrug your shoulders and say “Oh well!!!”?????

    The point is that unless there is a healthy fear of repercussion for our actions, what will prevent us from disobeying and doing whatever the heck we want regardless of how it impacts everyone else around us?

    God demands that we have a healthy fear and respect for Him in a similar, but eternal sense, and that there is a penalty for our actions whether the justice is served instantaneously or at some future time. He has made it very clear in the Bible that while He is merciful, He is also a God of justice and wrath… by the very laws that He has established, not us. Remember… He is the Creator (ie like you running your own company) and He has set the rules for His Creation.

    That is what makes the grace of Christ so much more compelling… that our sins deserve penalty and all of us have sinned against God at some point in our lives no matter what our feelings of justice and right and wrong are. It is in the forgiveness of our sins through Christ that God’s wrath against our sins is satisfied… in other words, Christ suffered for our sins and took God’s wrath upon himself so that we could restore our relationship with Him and receive His forgiveness.

    Don’t we all die at some point in our lives? Whether we die because of our health, an accident, or someone took our life and God allowed it all to happen? Is He unjust because we are all under the same penalty of death and not live forever as we wish we could?

    Well that is where the promise of eternal life through Christ removes that sting of knowing we are all going to die one way or another some day my friend.

  6. @Nima

    Maybe he had his people stone this person so that they would have to experience tremendous pain and hardship from this and change their hearts, no?

    How would you feel if you held a stone in your hand and were told to take part in stoning someone to death… you think you’d be torn in two over having to do this???? What if it was someone in your family that you love?

    I’m not God and don’t fully know all of His thoughts or reasons, but quite possibly this is a situation where the death of one man changes and saves the hearts of many… In my opinion, it was also His mercy that allowed Him to be patient for these disobedient people for 40 years in the desert instead of destroying them all and starting over with a whole new group of people.

    Keep in mind it was this very same group of people that He parted the Red Sea for to escape from certain death at the hands of the Egyptian soldiers and performed many miracles for such as providing them with manna from the sky to allow them to eat and survive in the desert and escape from the extreme slavery and oppression in Egypt… to have there freedom and own home to enjoy in the promised land.

    Even after all of this, their hearts were hardened against Him.

    Sometimes tremendous hardship is what God allows to test, and soften the hearts of man. Possibly even something as brutal as stoning a man…

  7. we are the freaks the faggots the geeks the savages, rouges, rebels, dissident devils, artists, martyrs, infidels. do we sit still under attack or do we start pushing back? fight?

  8. Certainly no sitting still. But no need to “fight”. Just keep superstitious nut jobs out of your life, call them out where you feel like doing so, and you are doing the best you can for a better future. But most of all: HAVE FUN!! :)

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